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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 11, 2017 14:44:34 GMT
Alright everyone. Let's see if we can make a useful SotT list using this potential new rule.
Rule: you may include one mercenary/minion unit, solo, and battle engine in your theme list. Warjacks attatched to models that can control them may also be included.
Here are some models I think could really help SotT:
Siege crawler
Horgenhold artillary
Forge guard
Alexia and the Risen
Sea dogs?
Gorman
Ragman
And there are plenty of power solos: Taryn ,Eiryss, etc
What do you guys think?
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 11, 2017 15:49:39 GMT
Sylys and Reinholdt are the first solo I can imagine in there.
Forge Guards or Press Gangers seems decent. You can't bring Rhupert with them if you take an Attachment solo, though.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 11, 2017 15:51:21 GMT
Eilish....
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Post by droopingpuppy on Jul 11, 2017 15:54:28 GMT
Thanks to remind him. He is simply an auto include model for now.... |
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 11, 2017 16:09:06 GMT
Shhhhh. Let's not mention him here. Anyone think the Siege Crawler under Siege with a unit of forge guard could work? He's pretty mercenary agnostic, and the big guns will help with the weakness of SotT. |
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Post by streetpizza on Jul 12, 2017 18:42:28 GMT
A&H for a ranged damage buff would have legs and bonus points since Murdoch can be free. So A&H + Goreman is a +4 damage swing for shooting vs jacks. Firefly makes it +6 if using electrical shots.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 12, 2017 18:58:17 GMT
A&H for a ranged damage buff would have legs and bonus points since Murdoch can be free. So A&H + Goreman is a +4 damage swing for shooting vs jacks. Firefly makes it +6 if using electrical shots. Alas, only Arcane Tempest solos and Arcane Tempest CAs can be taken for free in SotT. But Gorman would work well into construct stuff. I'd be cautious about A&H&M. That's a 12 point package. Maybe N3mo with a couple of Fireflies and Dynamo could pair well with some Gun Mages. Sons of the Tempest Nemo 25* -Finch 0 -Firefly 8 -Firefly 8 -firefly 8 -Dynamo 18 ATGM 11 ATGM 11 Tempest Blazers 18 Aiyana and Holt 8 -Murdoch 4 GMCA 0 GMCA 0 -Gorman Di Wulfe 4 Might have some teeth. |
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Post by streetpizza on Jul 12, 2017 20:33:27 GMT
yeah gotta start reading those requirements more closely. Before everything in the themes was fair game for the free model anyway so I never looked too closely.
Drop one firefly and that'll get you reinholdt or gorman and rifleman. Not sure if that's worth more than a firefly but its an option. Never underestimate how much damage Nemo can do with his gun especially when he's getting two shots.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 12, 2017 20:34:50 GMT
Here's my refined pSiege SotT list.
Sons of the Tempest
Siege 28*
-Defender 16
-Ironclad 12
ATGM 11
ATGM 11
Tempest Blazers (min) 11
Forge Guard 16
Siege Crawler 18
ATR 4
ATR 4
GMCA 0
GMCA 0
I'm hoping that the GMCAs will provide enough flare and shadow fire to give the list some assassination power. The Crawler has periscope, so that should help. Along with that, my Forge Guard should have a decent shot at being delivered with the combo of Foxhole and reinforcements. The Siege Crawler is actually a really strong piece that doesn't need too much support.
This list actually seems good. The only weak points that I can find are that gun mages are squishy (girded might help) and that Siege's control area is smallish for his feat.
I'll try to test it tommorow for CID.
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 12, 2017 20:41:23 GMT
yeah gotta start reading those requirements more closely. Before everything in the themes was fair game for the free model anyway so I never looked too closely. Drop one firefly and that'll get you reinholdt or gorman and rifleman. Not sure if that's worth more than a firefly but its an option. Never underestimate how much damage Nemo can do with his gun especially when he's getting two shots. Oops. Gorman was supposed to be in the list. I fixed it. In this case I'd prefer Gorman. The list already answers stealth pretty well, and the extra armor debuff is handy. But I can definitely see the value of the second shot from Reinholdt. |
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Post by pixh on Jul 13, 2017 1:42:57 GMT
I was using this list during the 2017 SR CID. Out of the dozen or so games played with it's various versions, I lost once.
War Room Army
Cygnar - haley1.75
Theme: Sons of the Tempest
2 / 2 Free Cards 77 / 75 Army
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Captain Victoria Haley - WJ: +27
- Thorn - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Charger - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Hunter - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5)
- Hunter - PC: 11
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 0
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 0
Arcane Tempest Rifleman - PC: 4
Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 4
Journeyman Warcaster - PC: 4
- Charger - PC: 9
Black 13th Strike Force - Lynch, Ryan, & Watts: 10
Tempest Blazers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages - Leader & 5 Grunts: 11
Changes I would experiment with would be Sylys, Taryn, and Elisha for solos; Thorn Gun Mages and Devil Dogs for units.
A list completely from scratch I would look at:
Theme: Sons of the Tempest
1 / 1 Free Cards 77 / 75 Army
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Major Markus 'Siege' Brisbane - WJ: +28
- Triumph - PC: 20 (Battlegroup Points Used: 20)cid version
- Charger - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8)
- Charger - PC: 9
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 0
Gun Mage Captain Adept - PC: 5
Captain Arlan Strangewayes - PC: 4
Journeyman Warcaster - PC: 4
- Charger - PC: 9
Ragman - PC: 4
Tempest Blazers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages - Leader & 5 Grunts: 11
Captain Sam MacHorne & the Devil Dogs - MacHorne & 5 Grunts: 12
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