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Post by mikethefish on May 18, 2017 13:32:00 GMT
Bunny spam can die in a fire. I refuse to own more than 2 of each type, and that will never change. It is pretty lame in concept, yeah. It can catch people who are unused to the tactic by surprise, and it IS quite strong at what it does (which is why you see it competitively), but it ultimately fails againstany lists. I need Ossrum to carry more weight than just be a specialist one-off that I use against certain opponents. The new Steamroller looks as though it will make bunny spam less desirable as well
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Post by mikethefish on May 18, 2017 13:34:18 GMT
In other news, I am ecstatic to see the return of Girded to the Siege Crawler. Should make it a tad more desirable in non-Rhulic lists as well. Hopefully that rule sticks and we don't get the impossible-to-use Roadblock back.
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Post by eathotlead on May 19, 2017 13:33:55 GMT
That was my intention as well...but my inlaws accidentally bought me 6 gunners instead of the 1 package I asked for... the bunny life chose me. This is effing hilarious and needs to be a t-shirt. (I'm neither endorsing nor condemning bunny spam, here.)
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Post by eathotlead on May 19, 2017 13:36:23 GMT
In other news, I am ecstatic to see the return of Girded to the Siege Crawler. Should make it a tad more desirable in non-Rhulic lists as well. Hopefully that rule sticks and we don't get the impossible-to-use Roadblock back. I hadn't seen this. I hope it still poops out Rhulic troops as well! (If so, the 'Crawler is looking very tasty.)
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Post by mikethefish on May 19, 2017 14:30:44 GMT
In other news, I am ecstatic to see the return of Girded to the Siege Crawler. Should make it a tad more desirable in non-Rhulic lists as well. Hopefully that rule sticks and we don't get the impossible-to-use Roadblock back. I hadn't seen this. I hope it still poops out Rhulic troops as well! (If so, the 'Crawler is looking very tasty.) It does. It just swapped Roadblock for Girded. The contention comes with Rhulic enthusiasts who are sad that Girded doesn't help Rhul very much, because of their high armor. The counter argument is that Girded helps out the squishy human solos that exist in other lists, and having a rule that benefits armies that aren't lead by Ossrum might not be a terrible thing. Really, Rhul didn't lose anything, because Roadblock was nearly impossible to make relevant in an actual game.
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Post by khador247 on May 19, 2017 18:55:58 GMT
As far as Roadblock being nearly impossible to make relevant, is it because your caster (or whatever) can just hide behind the huge base thus the attacker doesn't have LOS so who cares if you have cover? I assume this is what you mean.
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Post by mikethefish on May 19, 2017 23:28:56 GMT
As far as Roadblock being nearly impossible to make relevant, is it because your caster (or whatever) can just hide behind the huge base thus the attacker doesn't have LOS so who cares if you have cover? I assume this is what you mean. That's certainly a part of it, but it goes even beyond that. A model hiding behind the SC enough to use it as cover, but to not completely block LOS, does so presumably because he has a ranged attack or spell to cast at the bad guys. Unfortunately the huge base of the SC makes it very impractical to actually hide behind. Either you are so far away from the action (because the base is so massive), that you don't have range to anything worthwhile, OR you have moved up just slightly far enough that all's an enemy has to do is jink slightly to the side and eliminate the cover entirely. Essentially the SC either has to put itself in a bad position to provide cover to whatever you are protecting, or the protected models have to put themselves in a bad position to successfully claim the cover they seek from the SC. It's just impossible to resolve. At least with Girded, it just takes an enterprising model to simply snug up to the Crawler and be immune to blast. Less fiddling, and crappy board positions involved.
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Post by Xintas on May 22, 2017 12:56:16 GMT
I hadn't seen the Roadblock -> Girded change. It's literally everything I ever wanted.
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Post by eathotlead on May 28, 2017 15:02:23 GMT
Borrowing a discussion from the Khador subforum, what could you see, or like to see*, becoming a Rhulic theme book, and what would be added to pad it out? UAs, weapon crews, solos, units, character 'jacks and elite units, whatever. Most of my thoughts stem from the original World Guide (i.e. fluff) but gameplay desires would also be cool to hear. I'll reserve my opinions atm but this may help...
Hammerfall:
Horgenhold:
Lakeforge (foundry / naval)?:
Griddenguard / Groddenguard (defensive / anti-dragon)?!:
Or maybe some other arrangement? A fire or geomancy magic theme? Rhulic rangers and spies? Ogrun? Great Father clerics and paladins? An engineering or mining theme? What's likely or simply cool?
*longshots all of this, I know.
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Post by Munindk on May 30, 2017 12:25:03 GMT
A buff for the Highshields. Wether its an errata, a theme force, a kovnik style solo or a weapon attachment isnt really important, though I'd prefer the kovnik solo.
A judge/priest of the Great Fathers (if I remember correctly, those terms are a bit blurred in Rhul) who can buff a unit a turn, like the Piper. Or maybe a paymaster like mechanic? His ability could work on all Rhulic units or just Hammerfall units.
A Brand of Odom warcaster, with a focus stat higher than 6, that would buff TAC in some way would be nice.
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Post by eathotlead on May 30, 2017 15:54:37 GMT
Yep, Highshields are high on the list for a boost. In the fluff, HF is run largely by the Dhurg clan, maybe there's the source of the "kovnik" solo. The IKWG p. 362 lists Champion Pelgor Dhurg as notable (a fighter with magic ability). I realize not everyone is a fluff bunny, though. It's a fantasy, but I'd even like to see PP do to Hammerfall Highshields what they did to Ironfang Pikemen, alt shields and banner = alt unit.
A Piper style solo would also rock. As would a Brand of Odom warcaster... and one that buffs TAC is an even better idea! If Khador can do it with Greylord-themed stuff, dammit, we should be able to as well.
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Post by eathotlead on Jun 10, 2017 12:03:59 GMT
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Post by Xintas on Jun 15, 2017 13:25:58 GMT
Most likely they aren't authorized resellers, so no, it would not apply to them.
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Post by eathotlead on Jun 16, 2017 0:58:00 GMT
Most likely they aren't authorized resellers, so no, it would not apply to them. Wow. That's a hell of a discount off of the $130 or so I've seen at online game stores.
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Post by khadorific on Jun 21, 2017 14:29:50 GMT
I'm new to the faction, having only played a few games with my dwarven army. I'm coming over from Khador, so the SPD 4 jacks don't bother me as much as they do to some. However, I find myself needing more pathfinder.
What are people's favorite way of mitigating the lack of Rhulic pathfinder? Do people simply rely on Ossrum's feat? Are Cragback & Lug and/or the siege engine in every list? Nyss hunters seem to have some synergies with a few of Ossrum's and Madhammer's spells, but they're expensive and non-Rhulic, and I won't count on them to crack armor without Madhammer's "Primed" spell...
Thanks.
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