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Post by PiperMacB on Mar 9, 2017 11:56:27 GMT
Hi fellow Cyrissists, after checking all the new Grymkin material it seems to me, that our faction (again) has some advantages here. Most of the Grymkin's abilities is focussed around souls and a lot of their abilities work against living and/or undead enemy models. With this in mind I think we should be quite happy to have our construct-based models countering so many enemy systems.  What do you think? |
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Post by javaman21011 on Mar 9, 2017 19:12:00 GMT
Do you have links to the current Grymkin docs/stats? Are they only in PP's CID forums?
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Post by charlzheimer on Mar 11, 2017 12:59:17 GMT
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 12, 2017 13:11:14 GMT
The main problem Cyriss will have is the Death Knell collecting friendly corpses. The Grymkin as a whole rely somewhat on the Death Knell to give its heavies corpses. Unfortunately the Death Knell is a huge base so it's not that easy to hide. If you can kill the Death Knell before the heavies get corpses on them they'll struggle to crack armor.
That said, they have cheap weapon masters and Piggybacks can do really good damage under certain conditions without the need for corpses.
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Post by Permutation Servitor on Mar 12, 2017 13:57:06 GMT
Convergence troops, for the most part, don't generate corpse tokens. As constructs, they aren't Living. Only Living and Undead models generate corpses.
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on Mar 12, 2017 14:14:56 GMT
Convergence troops, for the most part, don't generate corpse tokens. As constructs, they aren't Living. Only Living and Undead models generate corpses. The Grymkin are all living though. The Death Knell can collect their own corpses. |
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Post by PG_AcidOverride on Mar 12, 2017 14:19:23 GMT
Convergence troops, for the most part, don't generate corpse tokens. As constructs, they aren't Living. Only Living and Undead models generate corpses.
This is not quite accurate. All models "generate" all tokens. A model's rules will determine what kind of tokens it can collect from where. There is currently no model in the game that can collect corpses from construct models, but that does not mean that constructs do not generate them.
Almost all soul collection effects require a living model, but that does not mean undead and constructs don't generate soul tokens, it just means nothing currently in the game can collect them (though many Convergence models include the Soul Vessel rule which means they count as living for the purposes of...
Huh...there I am stuck in MkII. Apparently they actually clarified this in the MkIII rule book and now only specific types of models have each type of token. Kinda cool. (Prime pg 60 if anyone is curious)
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Post by Permutation Servitor on Mar 12, 2017 14:57:01 GMT
Convergence troops, for the most part, don't generate corpse tokens. As constructs, they aren't Living. Only Living and Undead models generate corpses. The Grymkin are all living though. The Death Knell can collect their own corpses. Ah, I misunderstood you. |
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Post by zagdag on Mar 18, 2017 5:44:03 GMT
My current strategy is to take a Directrix Gunline and shoot the crap out of them. Lack of living really hurts them, assimilators nerf the heratic's All Fall Down nonsense, and I am thinking most Grymkin lists are going to be the battle engine and as many weapon masters as they can fit (read, 40 or so).
Three asimilators can kill a lot of guys each turn. Combine that with Axioms 5 axcella spikers and two drags, and walls of free servitors and it seems like CoC is uniquely well suited to deal with this faction.
Hope to get some test games in soon and see if I my first impression is right or if I am talking out my ass. The latter seems most likely...
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