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Post by octaviusmaximus on Jul 11, 2017 23:02:43 GMT
In light of the current CID, which merc/min solo or unit do you think bolster Caine 3's army the most? Anastasia
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 12, 2017 9:26:52 GMT
In light of the current CID, which merc/min solo or unit do you think bolster Caine 3's army the most? Ragman, Caine's Chargers do not have a problem shooting into melee, getting a +5 damage swing on the feat against something without spending 3 focus for Calamity would be bonkers, or you could go all out for the +7 if it is a particularly hardy target, pow 19 chargers, yes please!
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Post by sirmythos on Jul 19, 2017 8:25:21 GMT
As a slight aside, is the Charger spammed more because it's focus/points efficient or because of raw power compared to jacks like the hunter or defender? And there you have it. The charger is the best option for Caine's feat turn. Outside of that, it's still really strong. Have you ever considered the Cyclone?
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 19, 2017 14:50:07 GMT
And there you have it. The charger is the best option for Caine's feat turn. Outside of that, it's still really strong. Have you ever considered the Cyclone? The Cyclone does have some merit. On average (with 4 shots) it does more damage per point than a charger. Against an Ironclad during feat turn: Charger: 1.278 damage/point Cyclone: 1.5 damage/point Against a Juggernaut during feat turn: Charger: 0.833 damage/point Cyclone: 0.88 damage/point The Cyclone also has slightly better melee ability (2 handed throws are situationally pretty good), and covering fire can be useful. However, taking chargers instead does give you more boxes spread out. And the Charger threatens further than the Cyclone. I'd say it comes down to personal preference here. I detest randomized rof. But if you can put up with it, then the Cyclone is a solid option for Caine3.
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Post by Major Grom on Jul 20, 2017 8:55:01 GMT
guys, do you have any things about Thunderhead with Cain3 ?
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 20, 2017 9:21:52 GMT
guys, do you have any things about Thunderhead with Cain3 ? Thunderhead is great with Caine 3 I have found, a pow 17 pulse followed up by 2 more pow 19s is fantastic.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 20, 2017 10:02:17 GMT
The Cyclone does have some merit. On average (with 4 shots) it does more damage per point than a charger. Against an Ironclad during feat turn: Charger: 1.278 damage/point Cyclone: 1.5 damage/point Against a Juggernaut during feat turn: Charger: 0.833 damage/point Cyclone: 0.88 damage/point I assume that's based on receiving only the single point of focus from power-up, with no allocation? I guess the fact that the Charger gets a boosted attack roll is not significant since we are assuming +3 to attack from the feat (and possibly an extra +2 from Calamity).
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Post by Stormsmith Dropout on Jul 20, 2017 12:46:51 GMT
The Cyclone does have some merit. On average (with 4 shots) it does more damage per point than a charger. Against an Ironclad during feat turn: Charger: 1.278 damage/point Cyclone: 1.5 damage/point Against a Juggernaut during feat turn: Charger: 0.833 damage/point Cyclone: 0.88 damage/point I assume that's based on receiving only the single point of focus from power-up, with no allocation? I guess the fact that the Charger gets a boosted attack roll is not significant since we are assuming +3 to attack from the feat (and possibly an extra +2 from Calamity). You assume correctly. Caine3 usually doesn't have a ton of excess focus to play around with during feat turn. I did not include calamity, but the Cyclone would benefit more from that than the charger. The Charger does have the advantage of getting to boost to hit and damage for one shot for free.
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