Getting In On A Good Note

And reposting my own:

Category 1: Favourite Models

1. Exemplar Bastion Seneschal – Not the greatest model out there play-wise, but boy is he pretty. All fancy filigree and detail and gems and plating, he was one of the most fun little fellows to paint.
2. Intercessor Kreoss – Embodies the regal, ostentatious side of the faith. Our penultimate knight in shining armour. With the rearing horse conversion (I’m sure we all copied it).
3. Crusader (Metal) – I just love this little guy. Utterly clunky, squat, and straight up simple. Completely the opposite. He’s the basic no nonsense workhorse of the warjack stable, and he looked it. It may be odd, but I usually snap up any old metal Crusader I can find.


Category 2: Most Improved

1. Reclaimer Gatekeeper – I know, I know, he was taken before for Communion and focus efficiency, but I love the flexibility of the new Reclaimer. He’s now a great lil support for your caster, both offensively (Future Sight), and defensively (Ashen Veil), with a cloud to boot. Also can affect other models, but primarily I’m using his abilities on the caster [read: Feora1].
2. Vigilant – Roadblock. Our casters don’t die to one random hand cannon as often!
3. Flame Bringers – MAT7 AND Parry!


Category 3: Resident Sleeper

1. The Avatar of Menoth – Y’all argue what you like, I’ve espoused my love for him time and time again. He still holds a special little place for me
2. The Testament of Menoth – That extra point of focus, two extra inches of control (every inch counts), Apparition, and Dust to Dust dropping to 2 – I’m still excited about the MkIII Testament.
3. Feora, Priestess of the Flame – I still love her self-focus and personal capacity to smash things, and with things like Hex Hammer and Blazing Effigy dropping in cost, as well as the dearth of defensive tech we’ve picked up, it seems like a good time to be Feora1. She still doesn’t see quite the amount of love I think she deserves.


Category 4: The Smallest Disappointment

1. Hand of Fate + Cleansers? That performed exactly how I expected it to perform.
2. Vigilant – continuously running around to either be in front of my caster, or in front of wherever they wanted to end up that turn, he’s done his job of keeping them safe perfectly.
3. I don’t think I have a third? Everything I play really functions how I expect it to function…


Category 5: Best in Role

1. Support Caster – Grand Scrutator Severius. Something something Eye of Menoth.
2. Offensive Caster – Feora, Priestess of the Flame. Yes, everyone says pRez, but damn our other engine has game. Don’t forget the ability to walk 8 and spray 8. And then there’s the feat and throwing out Blazing Effigy’s…She’s a one woman wrecking crew.
3. Workhorse Heavy – Reckoner. He got a gun, a big stick, and equal best base threat in faction.
4. Workhorse Light – Redeemer. Pew pew pew.
5. Support Jack – Reckoner. Because Flare. He’s an enabler, he enables things.
6. Workhorse Small-Based Unit – Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honour Guard. They’re flexible, a lil tough to put down (with 8 box guards), and great on the charge.
7. Utility Unit – Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honour Guard. As above, plus shield guard.
8. Workhorse Medium-Based Unit – Can I just say Wracks? Please?
9. Workhorse Solo – Vassal of Menoth? Never discount a cheeky Arcane Bolt if nobody needs an Empower or Enliven.
10. Support Solo – Hierophant. Focus support, spell range, and healing for Harby.
11. Best Over-All Infantry (includes Cavalry) – Idrian Skirmishers + Chieftain & Guide. Good for shooting at all levels of things, and getting out of the way.
12. Best Over-All Solo – The Covenant of Menoth. He’s still a signature piece for us.
13. Best Over-All Jack – Reckoner. Gun plus stick. Though Eye of Truth could be a discussion.
14. Best Over-All Caster – Anson Durst, Rock of the Faith. He’s just a big ol’ bag of nope walking up the table, coming to smack your army down.

My 2cents, and actually first post here as a silent viewer of the old privateer press Faction forum.

Category 1: Favourite Models

(Here we take a look at your top 3 favourite models in the faction. Whether it’s because of Look, Viability or you have a story that made you fall in love with the little plastic/resin/metal buggers, here’s the place to talk about it!)



1. Intercessor Kreoss, My man, the art and the models are actually soooo awesome. I like his fluff, his rules, just bought him and can't wait to play it in MKIII.
2. The Harbinger, This model is why I wanted to play protectorate, having a floating messiah in the middle of the battlefield, the model is actually beautiful, she is still a very powerful caster in my opinion.
3. Temple Flameguard, Loving them since MKII, The simple look please me, and they always get their point back, I often use Pyrhuss with them under a caster with Arcane ward or other upkeep damn they are annoying for many of my opponent.




Category 2: Most Improved

(Whether from an edition change, a new support model, or just a new strategy you unearthed last Thursday at game night, models are constantly changing position within the meta. Here, you can talk your new hotness, birthed from any number of factors.)



1. Thyra, I must play her soon ! She survived the transition sooooo well, the model is quite badass tho.
2. Flamebringer, New cavalery rules, MAT 7 YES please those girls rocks !
3. Vigilant, I always loved the little guy, but I must agree it was near useless in MKII. Now he is a mobile cover for my harby or KreHorse and a potential boosted pow 15 in the late game... Nothing above the sky, but it do his work pretty well.




Category 3: Resident Sleeper

(We all have our special snowflake pieces, things that no-one else seems to run that we find amazing. This is the place to shout out about them, and finally get them the recognition they deserve!)


1. Temple Flameguard, sooooo many time my local player told me that they are lackluster since flamebringer, daughter or Idrian exist. Man you're so wrong, yes, they never kill a heavy on average dice, yes they can't kill your support. But that wall of spears sitting at def 17 armor 20 in the middle of the zone is a pain in the a** (and actually, I want to try them under F3ora, Ignite and Incite can make them pow 14 on a charge, that's enought to put little hole in some heavy target), for 11 point (15 with UA) they are bonker good !
2. Bastion, My big issue with the MKIII. Poor guys, they are so beautiful but totally lacklusters, I want to play them but can't figure a list or situation where I can make them work well.
3. The avatar of Menoth, Damn this new sculpt ! This guy was my go to in a Harby control list, good ol' Time (for me), now this the recent realease of dumb character warjack, I find him a little behind and overpriced. He is totaly playable tho.


Category 4: The Smallest Disappointment

(A bit of a negative name for a category, but these are pieces only spoken of in whispered voices in the darkest of taverns; models that actually…MET your expectations. Things that performed exactly as expected, in all the right ways. Something that you knew would be good, not bad, and that worked exactly as planned.)



1. Idrians, Yes they're good. But I don't like the models at all, I don't own them and never planning to buy them yet, I try to make list without replacing them with TFG for tarpiting and some fast unit to strike
2. pSeverius, I wanted something more... interactive, yes you are near the ultimate turd polisher on the board. Maybe this is my lists, but I find him boring in comparison of his counter part epic version.
3. Vassal of Menoth, I really really really really really miss Anciliary attack. I loved to put some Vanquisher on the table and watched the world burn in front of Feora.

Category 5: Best in Role

(This is a bit like the first category, but more specific. Here’s the place to describe your favourite choice in all of the basic army roles, and why! Lots of options, and plenty of ways to express your love for Menoth!)


1. Support Caster
pSeverius and Vindictus are the mans ! They both play different things but they are sooooo good at delivering our stuff.

2. Offensive caster
Krehorse is amazing, is personnal threat with this toolboxy spell list and capacity make him really fun and interactive to play, Feora 3 is our new angry caster and she do it well no armor can stand in her way, Amon fit in here too I guess, those dervishs are a nightmare...

3. Workhorse Heavy
The Reckoner is still the guy you bring in your case whatever you play, he is not mandatory as it was in MKII, but we can't go wrong with it. Special mention to Eye of Truth he is just plain dumb and good

4. Workhorse Light
Dervish, this guy is a steal point wize. He can punch waaaaaaay above his weight

5. Support Jack
Devout and Vigilant are the lovely duo of : Man just play an attritionnal game.

6. Workhorse Small-Based Unit
TFG all day long !

7. Utility Unit
Choir always win, but special mention to Rhoven and Friends

8. Workhorse Medium-Based Unit
Make it Medium and large Based unit 'cause I don't want to spit on Bastion again, Vengers are a personnal favorite (since Kreoss 3 is my new Waifu) but FlameBringer win the spot for the versatility they provide in a list

9. Workhorse Solo
Hierophant, Nothing stellar, but this guy always do his job, as a spellslinger caster player he is always in my case.

10. Support Solo
Carvolo never disapointed me, the hierophant already have a title soooo...

11. Best Over-All Infantry (includes Cavalry)  
Did I talked about TFG ?

12. Best Over-All Solo
Too many of them, Pyrhuss seems to die before he do anything noticeable in my games but I love this guy, the book is always the mvp, the hierophant never disappoint... The protectorate have a really good selection of solos I can't pick one to be the best

13. Best Over-All Jack
One Reckoner a Day keep the heretic away

14. Best Over-All Caster
Totaly subjective, but Kreoss 3 is love, Kreoss 3 is life.
Sevy 2 is also a blast to play.


Final note :  \[T ]/ \[T ]/ Deus vult ! Deus vult ! \[ T]/ \[ T]/

This is fun. I am very pro this quiz. Im a 'new' player even though Ive had Menoth for almost 3 years. Ive played a decent amount of games (though the majority of them are still just against my brother and his Khador) but have only won tournament games that I havent played in (i.e. I got a bye). But I sincerely love this faction and love to call it my own in the meta in which I play. So here goes and we'll see if we get the forum back.

Category 1: This is a tough one but here goes

1. Feora, protector of the flame. Yeah thats right Feora 2. When I started Menoth she was my girl. I loved how she worked and how tanky she could be. On top of that Hand of Judgement came out right after I started and that just made me love her that much more. In mkIII people think she is the worst caster only because she lost ignite and had her bond changed to an upkeep. Its different but I still think she is viable if you have the will to make her viable. Just my opinion. Also her model is great (despite the smoke stacks). Shes my girl.

2. Pyrrhus, Flameguard Hero. I love this guy's pose. Once I saw the CAD design for him I loved it. I was concerned about how stable he would be but he is amazingly well balanced. His rules are great too (can you say wm shield?) and his use with TFG is great. Just a fun model all around.

3. Anson Durst, Rock of the Faith . His model came out soon after I started and I just love it. That shield, oh man that shield. As big as many other models and as ornate as it can be. Its awesome. His rules could be better but the feel of how he is supposed to work is great. His army is supposed to be the rock upon which the enemy will break. I just love that. But I mean cmon, can a brother get a shield bonus?

Category 2: Most improved. This is less difficult

1. Flameguard Cleansers. This is a no brainer to me. I came into Mk III after Malekus was spoiled and released saying "PP stop trying to make cleansers a 'thing'. They're not a 'thing'" And lo and behold after MKIII came out I was saying "Huh...they made them a 'thing'". It all comes down to the Officer. Making the mini feat 10" sprays without affecting the str of the spray and giving the unit assault. Just fantastic. 18" threat range. Its also great that they realized that they are flameguard and so gave them the same Mat and Rat as the TFG. Def the most improved.

2. Vice Scrutator Vindictus. This guy had a huge, HUGE overhaul from Mk II. He was basically the worst caster in the faction and is now an extremely viable caster. His feat actually helps his type of list great. He retained the zealot specialization but it doesnt dictate what type of list you take with him. He is now the second best infantry caster (right behind High Reclaimer) in the faction and is very fun to play.

3. Crusader Warjack. Yes that is correct. The lowly Crusader. It didnt change at all from mk II on a rules standpoint but the change in point costs has made this little guy fantastic in my opinion. If it was a straight doubling of points for models was the norm this guy got a huge boost from being made so cheap. For what it is it is definitely worth the points and I am now glad I have 3 of them.

Honorable mentions: Allegiant of the order of the fist & Flame Bringers. Gotta give a shout out to the punch monks but I still have yet to play with them and didnt play with them in mk II. But definitely improved. Flame Bringers got huge boosts in getting parry and an additional Mat. These gals have definite game.

Category 3: Sleepers.

1. Z: Temple Flame Guard. These are in the same thread as the Crusader but I love them for how cheap they are. Adding the attachment for their mini feat makes them a great tar pit that can hold a zone. They are definitely caster specific but if you put them with one that has an armor or def buff then they can just last extremely long against hard foes for longer than their points would seemingly allow. Throw in Phyrrus and theyre just fun.

2. ZZ: Feora, Protector of the Flame. Yeah she's getting a lot of hate but I think she'll make a comeback

3. ZZZ: Judicator. Now this one is still being used but that will probably come to an end with the release of the Revelator. But I think its got some benefits that should still be exploited after the release.

Category 4:

1. Daughters of the Flame These gals had a bit of a lateral move. Their change was reducing the def by one and getting stealth. Its good and they work just right.

2. Exemplar Vengers. Good heavy cav that still does what its supposed to and can be buffed by Gravus and Kr3oss. Right where they need to be points wise and abilities wise.

3. Grand Scrutator Severius The OG old man is right where he should be. Powerful focus and feat that controls the opponent well and giving a buff to all. Still old man stats but thats how he rolls. Not extremely powerful but definitely a competitive caster.

Category 5: Best in role. Here we go. The big honors.

1. Support Caster: Intercessor Kreoss This one was tough for me but Kr3oss' ability to boost the abilities of his troops/jacks with his upkeeps just made it for me. Others considered: Sevy1 and Amon.

2. Offensive Caster: Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages Such incredible individual output from this guy and his ability to dole out buffs to punishment from his army. Big improvement. Also considered: Reznik 1 and F3ora.

3. Workhorse Heavy: Reckoner and Crusader! I know this is breaking the rules but I just cant decide between these two. I have yet to make a list without one of these bad boys in it. The crusader is so cheap that it can just get thrown in a the end when I have an amount of points left. The reckoner, though not what it once was, is still a very important element. Great range and still has ashen veil and flare and good spd. Love em both.

4. Workhorse Light: Dervish This guy has exploded on the scene and has taken many lists by storm. Players dont leave home with at least 3 of them.

5. Support Jack: Vigilant You want to get you're casters back? You want them to stay alive? You bring a vigilant.

6. Workhorse Small-based Unit: Choir of Menoth Battle may not be what it used to be but still, no one leaves home without at least one of these units in your list.

7. Utility Unit: Knights Exemplar Great combat unit that costs pennies on the dollar and doesnt have a cap of how many you can take. The attachment puts them over the top with cleave and overtake and a mini feat. Just fantastic.

8. Workhorse medium-based unit: Bastions This is a limited section because there are only two medium based units in the faction. Now bastions have fallen significantly and cinerators may still be, on spec, better but bastions with the solo are still a solid choice for some lists. I still see them taken more than cinerators.

9. Workhorse Solo: Allegiant of the order of the Fist These guys are great. They can hold a zone like no one's business. They are a great use of a very few points when you have them left over at the end of your list.

10. Support Solo: Vassal of Menoth. In Mk II this guy was taken to get an extra shot most of the time. Now he is a great source of an extra focus for focus starved casters. Great take.

11. Best over-all infantry: Idrian SkirmishersThese guys are now beloved among players and with good reason. Not quite sure what would be good with a caster? Throw in a unit of Skirmishers with attachment. Can be good with just about any caster in the faction. They can hurt with range and with combat and are very tough when using their mini feat. Just a great unit.

12. Best over-all Solo: Allegiant of the Order of the Fist. Big honors to the punch monk. Just a great individual solo. Easy to take and plug in somewhere and can have a huge impact on the game.

13. Best over-all Jack: Eye of Truth Big honors go to the new guy! He's dropped on to the scene and has had a huge impact. He's expensive but worth every penny. He buffs people around him and is tough as nails with oracular vision. He has a ranged attack and can get up to a very impressive pow with the right casters. He has two attacks base and has a good spd and ashen veil. Just a fantastic jack that I rarely make a list without.

14. Best over-all Caster: Hierarch Severius Big man in the Church! This guy has such a huge tool set and great buffs. His personal output is crazy and his feat can scalpel an enemies army and turn the tide. He's a caster that can be dropped into darn near any opposing caster and is just a fantastic caster overall.