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Post by hocestbellum on Jul 20, 2018 8:56:00 GMT
I'm surprised Kolgrimma got that done. Yeah, it's hard to stop a 10" spray, but she can only cast 3 max; I'd have thought you reasonably secure if you had any focus. Shame, really. Sounds like you were in an excellent position attrition-wise.
That said, whilst I haven't faced her, Cursed Fate looks like murder incarnate against IFP.
Neither of your lists have any non-caster magical attacks. Is that something you would be looking to change?
What would you be looking to change Viktor for? If he gets dropped then you have almost no shooting in either list to go with the no magic, and I worry that even in a team tournament you're giving yourself quite a lot of disadvantaged matchups.
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 20, 2018 17:56:00 GMT
Well it was a team tourney. So in a regular match up Aiyana and Holt probably would make an appearance in place of a smaller battle group without Vicky.
It was tight, but my opponent said that it was all or nothing. Basically I had to camp zero because I needed Energiser and battle lust and I had to allocate things in the same turn. Mirage basically forces you not to get too far behind in one turn.
And as for the list. At the next team event (a small tourney called the WTC) odds are on that Zerkova is coming out to play with AC now that the new things are out.
In addition, my second list will probably be Karchev or Hark. Basically a pair of lists that will be really hard for 2 people in a team to answer.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jul 21, 2018 13:27:01 GMT
Best of luck at the WTC! I look forward to reading about your escapades.
Surely Karchev out of those two? People complain about Karchev, but Hark is just insipid.
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 21, 2018 18:13:18 GMT
Best of luck at the WTC! I look forward to reading about your escapades. Surely Karchev out of those two? People complain about Karchev, but Hark is just insipid. Well you'd think that. These are the two lists. conflictchamber.com/#c3201b_-0x7a7pkW7s7skTkTkUhFhFe3kW8r___-0x8D7wkWkW7s7s7shFhF8r86chchKhador Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Jaws of the Wolf [Karchev 1] Karchev the Terrible [+30] - Destroyer [14] - Juggernaut [13] - Kodiak [13] - Kodiak [13] - Marauder [11] - Marauder [11] - Spriggan [17] Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)] Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)] Kovnik Andrei Malakov [0(4)] - Juggernaut [13] Widowmaker Marksman [0(4)] Khador Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Jaws of the Wolf [Harkevich 1] Kommander Harkevich, the Iron Wolf [+28] - Behemoth [25] - Juggernaut [13] - Juggernaut [13] - Kodiak [13] - Kodiak [13] - Kodiak [13] Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)] Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)] Widowmaker Marksman [0(4)] Battle Mechaniks (min) [3] Kayazy Eliminators [5] Kayazy Eliminators [5] Might drop the elims with hark and upgrade a Jug to a spriggan. Hark plays a very different game to Karchev. But I want to use them both as well as possible. My positioning has improved recently and so I think I can get away with it. Hark plays cagey and you want to keep things back until you commit on the feat. But both drops will be paired with Zerkova1 I just have to spend next weekend down firestorm games and hammer out any issues. Plus I need to pick up a strike tanker.
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Post by mazog on Jul 22, 2018 0:26:52 GMT
My Khador playing buddy feels like he can't play a Zerkova or a Sorscha because Storm of the North exists. What is your feeling on that topic? Is it just that you are going in a team event so you can dodge the matchup, or do you just plan to drop your other army whenever you see that in a pair, or is there something else going on?
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 22, 2018 9:44:28 GMT
My Khador playing buddy feels like he can't play a Zerkova or a Sorscha because Storm of the North exists. What is your feeling on that topic? Is it just that you are going in a team event so you can dodge the matchup, or do you just plan to drop your other army whenever you see that in a pair, or is there something else going on? That's what Hark is for. Kodiaks are like natural troll killers and they have problems cracking the arm of several jacks. Kodiaks will happily murder a unit of trolls if they get into vent range because they can't sanguine bond the damage and they are only arm16 so boosted damage rolls should kill them.
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Post by mazog on Jul 22, 2018 13:00:47 GMT
That makes a lot of sense. I know I don't like seeing a Kodiak across the table when I'm running infantry, and Hark is always a challenge. Thanks!
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 22, 2018 13:55:27 GMT
That makes a lot of sense. I know I don't like seeing a Kodiak across the table when I'm running infantry, and Hark is always a challenge. Thanks! Kodiaks are like legit the best jacks in Khador. Which is why I don't run them obviously.
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Post by cageyj0nny on Jul 24, 2018 11:33:38 GMT
Ive started using Vlad2 AC and I really like Viktor in the list. What shot types are you using? Ive found the incendiary shots to be fantastic! However ive only played the 3 games with the list so far.
Did you buy any chariots?
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 24, 2018 12:31:43 GMT
Ive started using Vlad2 AC and I really like Viktor in the list. What shot types are you using? Ive found the incendiary shots to be fantastic! However ive only played the 3 games with the list so far. Did you buy any chariots? I think I've only ever used fire. Except this one time I used Flare to try and kill thagrosh. No chariots. The WTC has eaten the remainder of my war machine funds for this year. I would probably try an assault chariot with Vlad though. Just for hand of fate. As for Victor. I still really like him, but he's so swingy unlike Conquest. Conquest can always put down blasts and always gets 4 shots. But as you probably heard me Female Doging about at the NWTC, when he misses every shot for 2 games in a row it's really annoying because he's an expensive paperweight. Or he kills like half of Haleys support. It's never simple.
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Post by cageyj0nny on Jul 24, 2018 13:32:30 GMT
It seems really unlucky to miss and then scatter and not get anything of value 2 games in a row. Have you been aiming with him? Ive found that in most games I can get away with aiming and then your hitting even def17 50% of the time with a boost.
Do you run a Drakhun? I like them but im struggling to get value out of it.9 points is too much imo
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Post by welshhoppo on Jul 24, 2018 15:13:51 GMT
I didn't aim with him that much as he plodded up the board to find a zone to sit in. But he had hand of fate on him and I just rolled a whole bunch of ones and twos.
I'm going to try and run Drakhuns with Zerkova so they can counter charge things that run through the clouds. I might drop one for a strike tanker and a small solo of some kind.
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Post by welshhoppo on Aug 27, 2018 20:34:51 GMT
So I haven't posted any battle reports in a while, and you're not getting one now either. Unfortunately my work to war machine ratio is out of whack and by the time I get around to writing my report. I've already forgotten my battle.
But I've been playing my WTC pairing, which is this.
Khador Army - 73 / 75 points
[Theme] Armored Corps
[Zerkova 1] Koldun Kommander Aleksandra Zerkova [+28]
- Destroyer [14]
- Destroyer [14]
- Sylys Wyshnalyrr, the Seeker [4]
Man-O-War Drakhun [9]
Man-O-War Kovnik [4]
Man-O-War Kovnik [4]
Man-O-War Strike Tanker [0(5)]
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker [0(6)]
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker [0(6)]
Kayazy Eliminators [5]
Kommandant Atanas Arconovich & Standard [7]
Man-O-War Shocktroopers (max) [16]
- Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer [4]
Man-O-War Shocktroopers (max) [16]
- Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer [4]
Khador Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Jaws of the Wolf
[Harkevich 1] Kommander Harkevich, the Iron Wolf [+28]
- Behemoth [25]
- Destroyer [14]
- Kodiak [13]
- Kodiak [13]
- Kodiak [13]
- Marauder [11]
Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)]
Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)]
Widowmaker Marksman [4]
Yuri the Axe [0(6)]
Kayazy Eliminators [5]
Kayazy Eliminators [5]
It's an odd Hark list, and I'm the only Khador player running Hark. So his entire win percentage is resting on my idiotic welsh shoulders.
But i've played a fair few games with this pairing, and it gives me an interesting set up. It means I have a few hard dodges, such as Sloan or Rask, basically anything with eyeless sight that can get through either cloud wall and then eat up the man o war or the jacks. However the lists have odd good matches like primal terrors, as the heavy hitters actually have eyes, trolls as they also have eyes, in addition champions die very easily to vent steam as they can't transfer the damage also, Jaws means haven't got to worry about bears eating my backside. I had an interesting game with Zerkova into Rasheth were I eventually won on clock whilst ahead on scenario and attrition, a turn without shooting or turtle nonsense. Into Cygnar I have good game into trenchers, who can't crack out the armour. Haley2 is a bit more awkward but Zerkova can deal with it, plus she dies really easily to Zerkova herself as shes focus hungry and isn't hard enough to survive the frost bites. Sloan is a bad match up, I have to rely on Zerkova slowing them down with the feat and then engaging the warjacks with man o war. Same goes for Siege, but Zerkova prevents him from ground pounding and it becomes a case of who feats first.
Zerkova is pretty good into Kreuger, but you have to play really aggressively and just throw heavy armour at him. The no pushing from the shockies means he can find it hard to win on scenario. I play a lot into mercs, but Ossrum is obviously always and issue, but Hark can probably tank it out.
In any case, if anyone has any questions then ask away. I'll try and post a report from my game this week, but it's a case of seeing how it turns out.
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Aug 28, 2018 8:38:34 GMT
I would have made a shock trooper UA free instead of a suppression tanker, purely so you use 75 out of 75 points Otherwise lists look interesting! Look forward to seeing how you do? Cheers, Dave
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Post by welshhoppo on Aug 28, 2018 16:14:11 GMT
I wanted to be 2 points down because it annoys people.
Now they know they are squaring off against an absolute mad man.
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