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Post by WIbblet on Jun 7, 2017 19:31:15 GMT
It isn't annoying how much I want KE to cost 10 points in all these theme lists.. the 9 is a bloody nightmare Correction: it is annoying..
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thelat
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Post by thelat on Jun 7, 2017 19:57:46 GMT
Your icon is tricking me into thinking that everything you say is very angry, even though it doesn't read that way.
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Post by greytemplar on Jun 7, 2017 19:58:28 GMT
Just add a Seneschal and he makes 5 units cost 10.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on Jun 7, 2017 20:26:09 GMT
It isn't annoying how much I want KE to cost 10 points in all these theme lists.. the 9 is a bloody nightmare It's the first thing I'm requesting come CID. up with the KE cost, down with the UA. Total package is fine at 14, complained about by, to my knowledge....nobody. But the 10 point bases would make it so much better. I thought about starting a CID wishlisting thread last week, but it'd lie dormant for months until CID Exemplar.
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Ryilan
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Post by Ryilan on Jun 8, 2017 6:00:44 GMT
Your icon is tricking me into thinking that everything you say is very angry, even though it doesn't read that way. I am the rage. This is what i came up with for a K2 list. War Room Army Protectorate of Menoth - Grand Exemplar Kreoss Theme: Exemplar Interdiction 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Grand Exemplar Kreoss - WJ: +28 - Fire of Salvation - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Templar - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12) Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 3 Wrack - PC: 1 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Exemplar Errants - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16 Exemplar Vengers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 5 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 5 Errants and Vengers are to draw attention away from the KE. Normally i would want to take 3-4 KE units, but with K2's feat i don't really need that many. I decided on FoS and a Templar, since well, FoS is FoS and the Templar works well with IR (23 Arm Templar~). I don't think it's that bad tbh. Another possible variant is to switch out one KE unit for a full unit of Cinerators and make the KE UA free. Ryilan
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regleant
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Post by regleant on Jun 9, 2017 1:48:59 GMT
On the plus side, Kreoss2 in theme would crap all over the Khador jack spam. The problem is when they instead drop Vlad1 Winterguard spam...
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Post by streetpizza on Jun 9, 2017 3:43:49 GMT
Your icon is tricking me into thinking that everything you say is very angry, even though it doesn't read that way. I am the rage. This is what i came up with for a K2 list. War Room Army Protectorate of Menoth - Grand Exemplar Kreoss Theme: Exemplar Interdiction 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Grand Exemplar Kreoss - WJ: +28 - Fire of Salvation - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Templar - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12) Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 0 Vassal of Menoth - PC: 3 Wrack - PC: 1 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Exemplar Errants - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16 Exemplar Vengers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 5 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 5 Errants and Vengers are to draw attention away from the KE. Normally i would want to take 3-4 KE units, but with K2's feat i don't really need that many. I decided on FoS and a Templar, since well, FoS is FoS and the Templar works well with IR (23 Arm Templar~). I don't think it's that bad tbh. Another possible variant is to switch out one KE unit for a full unit of Cinerators and make the KE UA free. Ryilan Why are you making a vassal free? Switch the free model to an exemplar officer and take two more wracks.
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d3z
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Post by d3z on Jun 9, 2017 3:52:04 GMT
Why are you making a vassal free? Switch the free model to an exemplar officer and take two more wracks. Because if he did that, he would not be paying for 60 points of exemplar, and would have an illegal list.
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Ryilan
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Post by Ryilan on Jun 9, 2017 5:48:51 GMT
Why are you making a vassal free? Switch the free model to an exemplar officer and take two more wracks. Because if he did that, he would not be paying for 60 points of exemplar, and would have an illegal list. Yup. The KE+UA, Vengers and Errants come out at 64 points. Turning the UA free would make it 59. The only way to make the UA free is to switch one of the units of KE+UA into a full unit of Cinerators. That would make it 61 points even when i make the UA free. Ryilan
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Post by streetpizza on Jun 9, 2017 11:12:06 GMT
Ah, I see my math error. I was including the choir in the addition.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on Jun 9, 2017 11:34:58 GMT
yeah, smoothing out the exemplar points is my highest hope when exemplar CID finally rolls around.
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Post by streetpizza on Jun 9, 2017 16:28:08 GMT
yeah, smoothing out the exemplar points is my highest hope when exemplar CID finally rolls around. Careful what you wish for. That could mean increasing the point cost on some stuff.
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Post by greytemplar on Jun 9, 2017 16:33:07 GMT
Yeah, none of our stuff needs point increases.
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Post by Privvy on Jun 20, 2017 1:03:20 GMT
His issue is that tactician doesn't help deliver exemplar. they hit plenty hard if they can make it, but without someone like Vindictus or Harby you usually can't apply enough models to your target to get work done. You only need half or slightly less than half to make it. They get a second attack, both ignore Defense, and if your opponent can space their models so you can't average almost 2 hits, then their model count is low enough that your remaining Exemplar can swarm them.
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