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Post by WIbblet on Jun 4, 2017 20:47:54 GMT
I have been trying to make this list work (I am quite new to the game) with the Voj and have come to a kind of balance between infantry and ranged: (Reckoner/Redeemer/VoJ). However I didn't have enough for the blessing of vengeance (how important is the arc node?) and only 1 mechanik: conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0E0T221G1H3D3p3p3t2_2v2jfVi8Protectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction !!! Your army contains a CID entry. (Severius 1) Grand Scrutator Severius [+28] - Reckoner [16] - Redeemer [11] - Revenger [10] High Exemplar Gravus [9] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Vassal Mechanik [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Exemplar Vengers (max) [20] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [5] Vessel of Judgment (CID) [18] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of wishful thinking, if they had just made Gravus a free solo you could have a more optimised version as so.... conflictchamber.com/#c2201f_-0E0T1O221G3D3p3p3t3t2_2v2jfVi8Protectorate Army - 79 / 79 points [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction !!! Your army contains a CID entry. (Severius 1) Grand Scrutator Severius [+28] - Blessing of Vengeance [13] - Reckoner [16] - Redeemer [11] High Exemplar Gravus [9] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Vassal Mechanik [1] Vassal Mechanik [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Exemplar Vengers (max) [20] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [5] Vessel of Judgment (CID) [18] To be honest I am not sure if I am completely barking up the wrong tree....
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Post by spideredd on Jun 4, 2017 22:06:55 GMT
Have you tried that list with Vindictus?
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Post by WIbblet on Jun 4, 2017 22:42:02 GMT
Have you tried that list with Vindictus? Why is everyone so keen on vinductus? and Is Sev not more useful for a mor mixed list....
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on Jun 4, 2017 23:07:41 GMT
Have you tried that list with Vindictus? Why is everyone so keen on vinductus? and Is Sev not more useful for a mor mixed list.... It's because VinnyD solves the one major issue faced by Exemplars: they hit like a truck, but getting to the target can be a problem. True Path takes care of terrain issues and the feat is a key delivery ability.
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Post by WIbblet on Jun 5, 2017 8:41:51 GMT
Why is everyone so keen on vinductus? and Is Sev not more useful for a mor mixed list.... It's because VinnyD solves the one major issue faced by Exemplars: they hit like a truck, but getting to the target can be a problem. True Path takes care of terrain issues and the feat is a key delivery ability. Because I am still new to this... Obviously true path makes sense...but what is the best way to use the feat...do you true path>>run everyone and then feat... preventing the enemy alpha before charging the following turn? is this not easily avoided by the enemy staying out of range? or can you kind of use the feat as a way of establishing board presence quickly without too much fear of reprisal before you get a swing? Thanks for any advice
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Post by WIbblet on Jun 5, 2017 11:09:34 GMT
And do you think I should waste less points on jacks... I have kind of adjusted marginally to this:
War Room Army
Protectorate of Menoth - Vindictus - interdiction (copy)
Theme: Exemplar Interdiction 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Vice Scrutator Vindictus - WJ: +29 - Reckoner - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 16) - Redeemer - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Devout - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2)
Vessel of Judgment <! INVALID FOR THEME !> - PC: 18
High Exemplar Gravus - PC: 9 Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1 Vassal Mechanik - PC: 1 Wrack - PC: 1
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 5 Exemplar Vengers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20
THEME: Exemplar Interdiction ---
GENERATED : 06/05/2017 12:07:55 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15
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Post by flamigant on Jun 5, 2017 13:02:35 GMT
conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0E1l1U1U1r3D3p3z3B3B2v2jfV2jfV2jfV3jProtectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Exemplar Interdiction (Vindictus 1) Vice Scrutator Vindictus [+29] - Crusader [10] - Crusader [10] - Devout [9] High Exemplar Gravus [9] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [0(5)] Vassal of Menoth [3] Wrack [1] Wrack [1] Exemplar Vengers (max) [20] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [0(5)] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [0(5)] Knights Exemplar [9] - Knights Exemplar Officer [5] Visgoth Juviah Rhoven & Honor Guard [9]
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on Jun 5, 2017 13:43:35 GMT
It's because VinnyD solves the one major issue faced by Exemplars: they hit like a truck, but getting to the target can be a problem. True Path takes care of terrain issues and the feat is a key delivery ability. Because I am still new to this... Obviously true path makes sense...but what is the best way to use the feat...do you true path>>run everyone and then feat... preventing the enemy alpha before charging the following turn? is this not easily avoided by the enemy staying out of range? or can you kind of use the feat as a way of establishing board presence quickly without too much fear of reprisal before you get a swing? Thanks for any advice 1) I haven't played Vinny yet (some key components of the list is still unpainted) so I'm unsure of what the best way to use feat is, but what you said sounds right. I'm sure someone with more experience will tell me I'm wrong. ;P 2) It is avoided by moving back, but one of the core ideas of WMH is that if one retreats, one makes it much harder to gain scenario presence. Plus, True Path with the +2 movement and the +2 to deploy from the Theme means that your Exemplars will be screaming up the board real fast. I've seen reports where Vengers were able to move up with feat and true path to threaten the deployment zone.
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Post by paradox on Jun 5, 2017 14:03:03 GMT
If you do Sevy, I think youre better leaving heavy hitting to the exmplars, take jacks to clear troops.
Grand Scrutator Severius - WJ: +28 - Blessing of Vengeance - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) - Redeemer - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11) - Redeemer - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4)
High Exemplar Gravus - PC: 9 Knights Exemplar Seneschal - PC: 0 Wrack - PC: 1
Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Exemplar Cinerators - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16 Exemplar Vengers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 0 Knights Exemplar - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Knights Exemplar Officer - PC: 0
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Post by Provengreil on Jun 5, 2017 16:55:00 GMT
Why is everyone so keen on vinductus? and Is Sev not more useful for a mor mixed list.... It's because VinnyD solves the one major issue faced by Exemplars: they hit like a truck, but getting to the target can be a problem. True Path takes care of terrain issues and the feat is a key delivery ability. The 2 inches deploy makes him even better. One turn running and placed under his feat, going second for the 1 foot deployment, means the next turn will net you point or models no matter what, unless they can manage a full scale LOS block to everything.
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