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Post by seanster3000 on May 26, 2017 2:17:56 GMT
Hello all! I've been poring over all of our new goodies lately and I think I've found an Elara2 list that I like. It uses the Defenders of Ios Theme. Here it goes:
Theme: Defenders of Ios
2/2 Free Cards 75/75 Army
Elara, Death's Shadow - WJ: +28
- Fane Knight Guardian - PC: 0 (Used as free Theme card) - Manticore - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Manticore - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Sphinx - PC: 13 - Chimera - PC: 8
Fane Knight Skeryth Issyen - PC: 0 (Used as free Theme card) Houseguard Thane - PC: 4 Houseguard Thane - PC: 4 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Ghost Sniper - PC: 3 Ghost Sniper - PC: 3
Houseguard Halberdiers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4
Houseguard Halberdiers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4
So what do you guys think? I feel like the Halberdiers would be crazy fast, I like the Snipers with Repo 3" too!
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Post by seanster3000 on May 29, 2017 16:07:39 GMT
I guess I'm just wondering if the Jacks I'm bringing are the best ones to bring. Most of the Elara2 lists I see have her with Imperatus but since I'm taking her in Theme he's not an option. Another question is, is the Chimera worth taking? I go back and forth on whether having an Arc Node is worth it for Elara2. I'm hoping to test this list (or a variation) soon.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on May 29, 2017 16:26:30 GMT
Hey, on the topic of your jacks specifically I really like the Pheonix with her in theme when Impy is not an option. I know a lot of people seem to shy away from them but personally if was running you list I would drop the chimera to upgrade both Manticores to Pheonix.
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Tucker
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Post by Tucker on May 30, 2017 2:55:18 GMT
I would definitely take an arcnode with Elara. I like the Chimera but the Phoenix can do well with her too, since she likes to have her army charge on into melee. Manticores are my favorite heavies to take with Elara since they hit really hard in melee and she can help with their lackluster MAT, so I see nothing wrong with taking two of them.
As for your army, I'm not sure that you need two Thanes. Usually only one unit really needs the speed boost and the other can get by on its own, and after turn 2 or 3 your Thanes won't have much to do as your Halberdiers will all be in combat or dead.
If you drop a Thane, the Ghost Snipers, and maybe play around with your other points you could squeeze in a Griffon (Elara2 loves Griffons) or maybe some Stormfall Archers or Riflemen. I like to take some guns with Elara2 to punish the enemy if they try to hang back outside of my charge range.
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Post by seanster3000 on Jun 3, 2017 18:01:47 GMT
Thanks for all the advice! Taking what you guys have said here is how I tweaked my Elara2 list:
Theme: Defenders of Ios
3/3 Free Cards 75/75 Army
Elara, Death's Shadow - WJ: +28
- Manticore - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Manticore - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Chimera - PC: 8
Fane Knight Skeryth Issyen - PC: 0 (Used as free Theme card) Houseguard Thane - PC: 4 Houseguard Thane - PC: 4 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Ghost Sniper - PC: 0 (Used as free Theme card) Ghost Sniper - PC: 0 (Used as free Theme card)
Houseguard Halberdiers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4 - Soulless Escort: 1
Houseguard Halberdiers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 - Houseguard Halberdier Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4 - Soulless Escort: 1
Houseguard Riflemen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Houseguard Rifleman Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4
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Post by Demeritus on Jun 3, 2017 18:22:15 GMT
Why use the ghost snipers as free models? You have over 40 points of Houseguard just with the base units so why not use the CA's for two of the units as free points, buy your ghost snipers and be able to add a 3rd arcanist?
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Post by seanster3000 on Jun 4, 2017 17:04:19 GMT
Because the Officers/Standards and the Thanes all count towards the points necessary to unlock more "free" models. When you use one of those models as the "free" model they then don't count towards the points to get more "free" models anymore. On the other hand the Ghost Snipers can be "free" models but do not count towards the points needed to get free models. In essence by making them "free" I can maintain having 3 "free" models.
I could drop the Soulless Escorts and take a 3rd Arcanist.
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Post by Demeritus on Jun 4, 2017 22:04:19 GMT
Ah I see your meaning, but I think I would still go for the 3rd arcanist personally.
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Post by seanster3000 on Jun 12, 2017 3:35:54 GMT
So, quick question. Would Hyperion be better instead of the 2 Manticores and Chimera?
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Post by Demeritus on Jun 12, 2017 18:11:04 GMT
So, quick question. Would Hyperion be better instead of the 2 Manticores and Chimera? Hard to say, it's a matter of personal preference imo. I do think you want the node to get marked for death out but Hyperion is a great target for Scything Touch and can support other models with it thanks to its base size. That said, having the other combo of jacks gives flexibility to your list in not only the node but access to infantry control via the covering fire on the manticores. I would definitely say try out both variants.
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