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Post by alanryan on May 24, 2017 1:25:01 GMT
May is nearly end. June will come, and we haven't any news of Revelator yet I remember at the begining of mk3, PP said they will launch all model before July 2017, then it's 2 month gymkin and then will all new things but Revelator still not any news. even not any model picture. It is obvious that Revelator is difficult launch at June, and impossible at July & August so, Revelator is not include in "all models". it's deleted from rule, we haven't this thing, it's non-existent, warroom's Revelator is a program bug, isn't it?
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Post by Swampmist on May 24, 2017 2:08:40 GMT
Nope, we just saw a new pic and rules in the Gargossal Wrestling portion of the next NQ.
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xernal
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Post by xernal on May 24, 2017 2:10:53 GMT
im hoping its our 'christmas model' that PP mentioned in a primecast way back. each faction gets something in december. But that plan has probably changed in the past X months since then
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 24, 2017 17:06:51 GMT
Personal theory of mine is that its the last model that got caught in the Great Production Outsourcing transition. The fact that its probably an on-sprue Revelator/Judicator multi-kit will add to production complexity, which adds to the complexity of fixing issues if things go wrong.
It's the one thing I'm allowing myself to get salty about, especially since it's the last model I have left to get the faction 100% collected.
So no, the Revelator is not a programming bug, nor is it vapourware.
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Post by alanryan on May 25, 2017 2:30:33 GMT
Personal theory of mine is that its the last model that got caught in the Great Production Outsourcing transition. The fact that its probably an on-sprue Revelator/Judicator multi-kit will add to production complexity, which adds to the complexity of fixing issues if things go wrong. It's the one thing I'm allowing myself to get salty about, especially since it's the last model I have left to get the faction 100% collected. So no, the Revelator is not a programming bug, nor is it vapourware. complexity?! but revelator/judicator has most simple shape. its only have different on their gun and head. it's simple than every other colossus so only possibility is revelator is deleted
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Post by alanryan on May 25, 2017 2:35:59 GMT
im hoping its our 'christmas model' that PP mentioned in a primecast way back. each faction gets something in december. But that plan has probably changed in the past X months since then but before july, all model will be launch. so if it is 'christmas model', it's non-existent at this time. fact is we are the only faction that haven't all model at June.
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 25, 2017 2:55:26 GMT
Personal theory of mine is that its the last model that got caught in the Great Production Outsourcing transition. The fact that its probably an on-sprue Revelator/Judicator multi-kit will add to production complexity, which adds to the complexity of fixing issues if things go wrong. It's the one thing I'm allowing myself to get salty about, especially since it's the last model I have left to get the faction 100% collected. So no, the Revelator is not a programming bug, nor is it vapourware. complexity?! but revelator/judicator has most simple shape. its only have different on their gun and head. it's simple than every other colossus so only possibility is revelator is deleted Complexity as in it's a a huge base-model with multiple sprues. It's not relative to other colossals. That's what I mean by complex.
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Post by alanryan on May 25, 2017 3:05:41 GMT
complexity?! but revelator/judicator has most simple shape. its only have different on their gun and head. it's simple than every other colossus so only possibility is revelator is deleted Complexity as in it's a a huge base-model with multiple sprues. It's not relative to other colossals. That's what I mean by complex. they have 2 year time. they had launched ros,cygnar,khador,cryx and coc ‘s multiple sprues. if every colossals is not launched, maybe because "Complexity", but only ours is not launched, it's proved otherthings actually, cryx and coc 's multiple sprues colossals is launched more than 1 years. they have much more than enough time and tech to made our colossals. but they don't.
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 25, 2017 3:12:51 GMT
they have 2 year time. they had launched ros,cygnar,khador,cryx and coc ‘s multiple sprues. if every colossals is not launched, maybe because "Complexity", but only ours is not launched, it's proved otherthings actually, cryx and coc 's multiple sprues colossals is launched more than 1 years. they have much more than enough time and tech to made our colossals. but they don't. Re-read my original post- my theory most probably the Revelator got caught in some sort of manufacturing problem when they were transitioning from in-house resin production to off-shore sprue production in China. The delay suggests to me that there was definitely a big issue somewhere down the line. The complexity of the product is relevant in the fact that if there are any problems, with molds or material, solutions are made complicated. Will Pagani has stated publicly that they are trying to get it out ASAP.
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thelat
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Post by thelat on May 25, 2017 16:51:50 GMT
I'd like to chime in here that manufacturing is hard, particularly when binding contracts get involved. It's just a shame that they're not more open about what's going on.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on May 25, 2017 21:35:37 GMT
It's just a shame that they're not more open about what's going on. Can you imagine what it would look like if PP were more open about it? "25th May 2017; no Revalator," "25th June 2017; Still no Revalator," "25th July 2017; Sorry, but no Revalator." And that's even if they can, what with Chinese contracts being as byzantine as they are. Saying that, I want that fiery goodness now and not a moment later.
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 26, 2017 0:13:04 GMT
Go check out the painting livestream Dallas just had. I asked about the Revelator and he did let us know its on the way.
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Post by gargs454 on May 26, 2017 14:10:19 GMT
Aye, plus the "by end of June" or whatever, was never (to my knowledge) supposed to have meant everything previously revealed. IIRC (suspect at best since I'm still on the first cup of coffee) was that their goal currently is to have any models revealed in NEW books out within 3 months of publication in said book. For the most part, they have been pretty accurate on that if I am not mistaken.
Nothing about this particular model has been deleted, its just not been shipped. I think Scrub of Menoth has the right of it. We know that when they went oversees for their new production they had issues initially. Its not hard to imagine that Revelator got caught up in that as well. PP also isn't the only company to have had issues with the oversees production. I know that Reaper for instance, had huge issues with their Bones 3 kickstarter which was a loooonnnggg time ago and is only just now being shipped (much different from their first two kickstarters).
Of course that doesn't mean I'm perfectly happy without the revelator, just that it unfortunately has obviously run into delays. I'm pretty sure PP knows that it will sell well when it hits the shelves.
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Post by marijnh on May 26, 2017 20:56:15 GMT
Go check out the painting livestream Dallas just had. I asked about the Revelator and he did let us know its on the way. That's what they've been saying for a year now. I keep saying it; they had the same crap with the judicator. One of the first to get shown, the last (by a bery long margin) to get released. It's getting old.
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Post by Scrub_of_Menoth on May 26, 2017 21:25:04 GMT
Go check out the painting livestream Dallas just had. I asked about the Revelator and he did let us know its on the way. That's what they've been saying for a year now. I keep saying it; they had the same crap with the judicator. One of the first to get shown, the last (by a bery long margin) to get released. It's getting old. Was the Judicator actually the last of the Gen1 colossals to be released? I agree, the wait is frustrating, but other than going to China and asking around (or pushing on the boat to make it go faster) we really can't do much.
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