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Post by maelstrom831 on May 20, 2017 8:36:19 GMT
Hello everyone I am new to MKIII and I want to play Circle. I am thinking of buying the battle box to get Tanith and start building from there. So I have been reading and reading forums, articles and such. This is the first two lists I have come up with that are 75 pts but I am unsure of which list is general stronger and would like for people to point me in the right direction. I dont know if the lists are any good either orr I am missing key pieces that make Tanith a solid general.
I am looking for a list that is overall strong against most casters, my friends play Cygnar, Convergence & Legion. So if you guys can help possibly explain more about Tanith or help me understand how to go up against those previously mentioned factions that would be great
Tanith1 (Tanith the Feral Song) -31 - Loki 19 - Warpwolf Stalker 19 - Gorax Rager 7
Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Shifting Stones 3
Una the Falconer 4 - Scarsfell Griffon 8 - Scarsfell Griffon 8
Reeves of Orboros (Leader and 9) 16 - Reeves of Orboros Chieftain & Standard 4 Lanyssa Ryssyll 4 Gallows Grove 2 Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew 2
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Tanith1 (Tanith the Feral Song) -31 - Loki 19 - Druid Wilder 4 - Warpwolf Stalker 19 - Gorax Rager 7 - Scarsfell Griffon 8 - Scarsfell Griffon 8
Wrong Eye (Wrong Eye & Snapjaw) 17 - Snapjaw 0
Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Shifting Stones 3 Shifting Stones 3 Lanyssa Ryssyll 4 Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew 2 Gallows Grove 2
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Post by Forsaken on May 20, 2017 9:27:23 GMT
Tanith is a good starting caster, she does a lot of debuffing and can therefore be very forgiving. As you seem to be aware Loki is her favorite puppy and she also does well with the pureblood she gets in her battlebox. I'm not such a big fan or the gorax, I would rather have primal from a feral warpwolf, but goax does come in the box and is point cheap. Double sentry stones is easily worth it's point cost and reeves are definitely solid but honestly many other units can do just fine. Not sure why your taking Lanyssa over a wayfarer but to each their own. Wrong-eye has a good gimmick but it is a gimimick. I like the wilder but I don't feel Tannith always needs her and I steer away from double shifting stones (ones enough). Double scarsfell is alright but does nothing special for or with Tannith.
Hopefully this will help.
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Post by ispyypsi on May 20, 2017 9:44:18 GMT
I like both list. The first one gives you more options with reeves and manninkins gumming up lanes and shooting the crap outta stuff. The una boat can hunt some solos or threaten assassination. The second list has star crossed though, and that is fun on most of our high def stuff.....but its a linchpin model soo there is that. Also it has a bunch of beasties so fury management could be a bit tough even with the stones.
If you drop gorax and griffs for a feral you could put in a blackclad wayerfayer and a gobber chef or another grove and those grimlins since no one expects them lol. Or just make one griff and razorwing and add the chef, just for some more fury control (eatting mannikins doesn't even slow you down). Again both list are solid I think and once you get some play time with em I think cygnar is about the only one what might be tough with all its true sight and yadda yadda. Good luck man.
Edit: Lanyssa says effffff eyeless and pathfinder forsaken. Plus she dunks on his dirty legion friend.
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Post by maelstrom831 on May 21, 2017 10:36:01 GMT
I appreciate the help already and I have made some adjustments to the initial listing to hopefully create a better generic 75 points listing
Tanith1 (Tanith the Feral Song) -31 - Loki 19 - Feral Warpwolf 18
Reeves of Orboros (Leader and 9) 16 - Reeves of Orboros Chieftain & Standard 4 Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Shifting Stones 3
Una the Falconer 4 - Scarsfell Griffon 8 - Scarsfell Griffon 8
Alten Ashley 6 Lanyssa Ryssyll 4 Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew 2 Gallows Grove 2 Swamp Gobber Chef 1 Swamp Gobber Chef 1
So what do you think... again is this closer or further away than a solid generalized list that should be capable against Cygnar, Legion & Convergence as the main opponenets
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Post by ispyypsi on May 21, 2017 11:46:46 GMT
I don't think you'll need double chefs unless you plan on running super hot. Convergence might bring more ARM skew than reeves can deal with and they can definitely mulch infantry with some aoe stuff so stay spread out. I almost never use alten. He is a lot of points for a kinda ehhh payoff in my opinion, vs legions beasts you should be ok since they are made of paper for the most part.
As far as changes I think the weak points are Alten and a chef, drop him for a wayfarer so you have a scything touch 2 inch bubble that can move to safety then put in another set of stones to block lanes and give him somewhere else to teleport after he does his charge battle wizard thing. He also lets lanyssa do her no pathfinder thing while he marks if you need it. Remember good players can make do with meh lists and I though you first list was solid. I think circle offers us all kinds of ways to make things happen unlike say menoth who just ram up the middle. I'm interested in how una plays out for you, just her being around threatens his important pieces (jack marshalls, support junk) so try that out if it doesn't work out put in a stalker and whatever you need dfor 2 points. Another tree isn't a bad idea.
Keep us posted my dude.
Edit: wilders free upkeep is great soooo keep that in mind too.
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Post by maelstrom831 on May 21, 2017 13:43:05 GMT
Okay once again Ispyypsi thank you for the advice... I have again reviewed the list and made some changes to try and find that solid median ground that would be a good list for a novice to begin to play with and that can be a some what competitive list once you gain enough practice with it
So what do people think of this version of the list now... I think that it is a happy middle ground now
And what kind of objective would I take... bunker or fuel cache?
Tanith1 (Tanith the Feral Song) -31 - Feral Warpwolf 18 - Loki 19 - Scarsfell Griffon 8 - Scarsfell Griffon 8 - Druid Wilder 4
Reeves of Orboros (Leader and 9) 16 - Reeves of Orboros Chieftain & Standard 4
Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Sentry Stone & Mannikins 5 Shifting Stones 3 Shifting Stones 3
Blackclad Wayfarer 4 Blackclad Wayfarer 4
Gallows Grove 2 Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew 2 Swamp Gobber Chef 1
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Post by ispyypsi on May 21, 2017 15:48:21 GMT
I like bunker because of AoE and you got the bellows crew, but don't just take my word for it (insert reading rainbow music).
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